Tuesday, February 19, 2008

Poll: Siteswap Generator



At 4:12 PM, Anonymous Laurence said...

I wish I didn't have to though. It's just easier to use jugglinglab to find transitions.

I don't use one much for finding new patterns though. Unless I'm really bored.

go, say, cage. Generators are useless at finding siteswaps like those.

At 4:27 PM, Blogger Ed Provencher said...

Hi Laurence. I'm unaware of jugglinglab being able to generate transitions. I only know it to be able to produce lists of siteswaps. My friend Danny Marden pointed me to a true transitions generator at this site http://cursomalabarismo.no.sapo.pt/jdb/ulbox.html. If you can save the page (using firefox) you can use the program offline.

I am becoming a siteswap nerd, so I find the process of exploring siteswap lists from the generator to be very useful and interesting.

What are "go, say, cage"? I am not familiar with those siteswaps.

At 11:18 AM, Anonymous Laurence said...

Truth is I'm not really ready to find new patterns I can juggle by reading through a list of numbers. I just don't have enough skill at juggling them. I might try it more in the future.

Getting transitions out of jugglinglab is a stupid, long-winded process. That I did when I didn't know a better way: Put 615,71 etc in the Include box, guess period, check the list for something interesting.

I'm actually a bit embarrassed I even had the idea of finding siteswaps that are also words. It's like the chocolate tea pot of siteswap.

Thanks for the link to the transition generator.

At 8:02 PM, Blogger Ed Provencher said...

No worries. Siteswaps (tricks) actually started out with word names. The term siteswap came later. With siteswaps, we are able to rename tricks like the 3 ball "shower" to 51. Shower is a more interesting name. How many can I think of...

3 ball tricks
shower = 51
shower with leak = 615150
cascade = 3
reverse cascade = 3
mills mess = 3
back cross = 3
two up, one up = (4,4)(4,0)
the box = (4,2x)(2x,4)
w = 423
tennis = 423

4 ball tricks
shower = 71
half shower = 53
synchronous = (4,4)
asynchronous = 4

5 ball tricks
cascade = 5
reverse cascade = 5
mills mess = 5
gattoplex = (6x,4)(4,6x)

Laurence, I'll post this question to rec.juggling and see what else people can think of. :-)

At 6:48 PM, Anonymous Laurence said...

Sorry about my post on rec.juggling as lbz1984. My postr was not a suitable response for a foreign language student and I should have realised.

I think I just read "word names", as "word games". Somehow I entirely mistook the situation.

go is a valid siteswap for a half shower with 20 balls. Which is a pattern no juggler would take seriously. So I thought that fact was funny. But it has very little value.


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