Interesting Threads June 6, 2008

These are interesting threads from Rec.juggling. Click on the links above the quotes to read the entire threads. The quote is the original post or a condensed summary of mine if it is a really long post.

purpose of juggling

It seems to me like everyone is saying that you should juggle to do new tricks that no one has done before. I see a trick that i like and i want to learn it. Once you learn that trick there are endless variations on that trick and endless variations on those variations, so why do people say its so bad to learn tricks you have seen before. In the future when you have learned all of these tricks that hav the endless posibilities then you can use creativity around them. This is how new tricks are born! Then if you are throwing all of these backcrosses and decide "oh wat if i can throw them under my arm and a backcross at the same time a new trick is born." I think that becoming an amazing juggler and learning all of the tricks you see is exactly the key to unlocking new tricks. Any responses?

Transitions out of a 4 ball shower?

Hi there

Anybody knows any cool transitions out of a 4 ball full shower?

-Matias

1up 4up Variation

Hi rec.

I was playing around with 1up 4up variations [1] last week and I'd like to suggest a trick for someone to get on video because I am not up to the challenge as I suck at pirouettes.

The trick:

(starting from 5 ball cascade)
1. Throw one very high and collect two in each hand.
2. Throw synch _split_ duplexes so that one split is much higher than the other.
3. Do a pirouette under each of the throws (3-stage pirouette?) and go back into cascade.

Thanks to anyone who attempts this and kudos to anyone that actually gets it on video.

[1] www.freewebs.com/multiplex/blog.html

Vova Galchenko Article in NY Times

Link to the article

Interesting Threads May 28, 2008

These are interesting threads from Rec.juggling. Click on the links above the quotes to read the entire threads. The quote is the original post or a condensed summary of mine if it is a really long post.

Definitition of "Squeeze"

What is the definition of a "squeeze"? Are there different types of squeezes? Thanks.

Jason interviews Wes & Jason interviews Wes: Jason's Version should be mentioned at the same time. I won't add the original posts because they are really long. These are really interesting reads in many ways.

The Juggling Crib - Lube

THE JUGGLING CRIB is a juggling related comic strip featuring some local jugglers here in Stockholm, Sweden. In the main cast you can watch bad imitations of jugglers like Elias Hedlund, Wes Peden, Peter Åberg and Jay Gilligan amongst others.*

http://www.informatik.umu.se/~svph0214/index.php?page=projects&proj=tjc

Feel free to give feedback either here or at eliashedlund AT gmail DOT com

* The script and all characters in this comic are based and inspired by real life situations. The following strip contains coarse language and due to its content it should not be viewed by anyone. The truth is always nastier though.

/ Elias Hedlund

Druggling

I was curious how other jugglers feel about JUI (juggling under the influence). I used to be a pretty dedicated gamer and liked nothing more than to puff a bit on my magical hippy pipe of wonder and sit down to a few hours of Halo or Everquest or whathaveyou. Now, thought, since I started juggling, after an evening of typical hippy antics I usually spend that time juggling. It is interesting to think about if my drug-induced runs are more or less productive than sober-minded ones (i am still not sure, but i am selflessly continuing to experiment as often as i can).

Any thoughts?

wikidiabolo.com now online

Hey there,

Check out http://wikidiabolo.com - the only wiki site dedicated to diabolo.

Feel free to add, change and learn from the site.

Seeya

Rich

Juggling Research Survey

There are some jugglers who are trying to answer the question, "Which is the most interesting siteswap [juggling pattern]?" They've created an interesting online survey. When you go to the survey, simply create a user profile (1 minute) and select the more interesting pattern you see between the pairs of patterns presented. Click 'next' as many times as you want to continue the survey. There are 70 different patterns which can be combined in a VERY large number of ways, so just go as far as you are interested, in terms of 'next'. Below is the original post on rec.juggling. Or, if you want, read the entire rec.juggling thread about it.

Hi,

I was talking to a friend of mine and this question came out of nowhere: Which is the most interesting siteswap? (Well, actually it came out of a couple of beers)

After that question, we found another: is there a "most interesting siteswap" for everyone or everyone has a different opinion?

We were so curious about this question that we created a web site to find out. The url is http://frodo.matcom.uh.cu/Juggling and we will need as many opinions as possible.

In the web site, you will be asked to compare several pairs of juggling animations and in each pair you should select the one which is more interesting to you.

When we have enough information we will try to find out if it is possible to "guess" how interesting is a siteswap using only the numbers in the siteswap, without looking at the animation.

Comments, suggestions and beers are welcome.

Fernando.

Interesting Threads May 23, 2008

These are interesting threads from Rec.juggling. Click on the links above the quotes to read the entire threads. The quote is the original post or a condensed summary of mine if it is a really long post.

I like the idea of posting links to threads I find interesting, if for no other reason than I can find them easily when I'm bored. :-) So here are a few more that I've enjoyed reading.

Are there juggling-videos of historic value?

Imagine someone who doesn't know anything about juggling and its cultural conditions asks you for some juggling videos in order to get an overview about juggling and its development (18xx - today). Which videos would you show that person?

As there are tons of good juggling videos out there, I'm interested in finding out if there are any that one should have seen absolutely. You know, which ones are the essentials that still will be watched in 50 years or so because of their content. I know it's hard, but please try to mention up to 20 videos (not more!) that you think are important. Let's see where it gets us... have fun, thank you Jo

What the Duck!?

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Eb7Qq8yHuKk

so let's see something happen. show me some action. make something new!

please and thank you.

/wes

The Juggling Crib - laura

THE JUGGLING CRIB is a juggling related comic strip featuring some local jugglers here in Stockholm, Sweden. In the main cast you can watch bad imitations of jugglers like Elias Hedlund, Wes Peden, Peter Åberg and Jay Gilligan amongst others.*

THE JUGGLING CRIB
http://www.informatik.umu.se/~svph0214/index.php?page=projects&proj=tjc
New strip every monday

Feel free to give feedback either here or at eliashedlund AT gmail DOT com

* The script and all characters in this comic are based and inspired by real life situations. The following strip contains coarse language and due to its content it should not be viewed by anyone. The truth is always nastier though.

/ Elias Hedlund

social desire

What do you all think about performers being valued or devalued based on gender presentation? I was prompted to write this after reading the new 'Juggling Crib' comic, but i hope this to be a seperate discussion on what perspective or experiences some of you might have on this topic. I have a few things to share that I'm sure are very limited so I really hope to open it up to everybody (particullarly those who may have unique experiences or perspectives to share).

Just a recently I saw a show where I woman performer got a super great reception. She had a nice routine, but I think people were really celebrating her in terms of her sexyness. Maybe I was jealous, but I realy felt that If I had done her routine, in the way she had done it, that it would not have been very well liked at all (by the same audience). I am not saying it was a bad routine, or that there is anything wrong with any one acting sexy on stage. But I wonder if audiences are missing out on women who may not to play it up.

Fun fact: I have been called 'a faggot' more times when I have been juggling than when I have not (even if you count junior high-school [that's 11 to 13 yrs or grades 7-8 in the u.s.])!

Sorry this is conceptually messy and probably full of typos. -brian

Four ball videos

I`ve seen quite a lot of really good and impressing four ball videos which I found on rec. juggling.

Whar are the best four ball juggling videos or four ball parts in juggling videos that you know?

All suggestions are welcome!

Best wishes and sunny spring greetings from Austria

Elisabeth

Interesting Threads

I'm going to start posting links to the interesting threads I read on rec.juggling which is an online juggling discussion group. These are from the last couple months. There are more recent threads which I will post soon. Click on the links above the quotes to read the entire threads. The quote is the original post or a condensed summary of mine if it is a really long post.

Combined halfshower-fullshower siteswap?

Hi there. Anybody knows the siteswap for a combined 4 ball halfshower - fullshower? Not a transition from one to the other, but a continuously pattern. -Matias

The Juggling Crib - Pilot

THE JUGGLING CRIB is a juggling related comic strip featuring some local jugglers here in Stockholm, Sweden. In the main cast you can watch bad imitations of jugglers like Elias Hedlund, Wes Peden, Peter Åberg and Jay Gilligan amongst others.*

I will be releasing a new episode every monday starting on the 28th of April.

THE JUGGLING CRIB
http://www.informatik.umu.se/~svph0214/index.php?page=projects&proj=tjc

Feel free to give feedback either here or at eliashedlund AT gmail DOT com

* The script and all characters in this comic are based and inspired by real life situations. The following strip contains coarse language and due to its content it should not be viewed by anyone. The truth is always nastier though.

/ Elias Hedlund

The Juggling Crib - language

THE JUGGLING CRIB is a juggling related comic strip featuring some local jugglers here in Stockholm, Sweden. In the main cast you can watch bad imitations of jugglers like Elias Hedlund, Wes Peden, Peter Åberg and Jay Gilligan amongst others.*

THE JUGGLING CRIB
http://www.informatik.umu.se/~svph0214/index.php?page=projects&proj=tjc

New strip every monday

Feel free to give feedback either here or at eliashedlund AT gmail DOT com

* The script and all characters in this comic are based and inspired by real life situations. The following strip contains coarse language and due to its content it should not be viewed by anyone. The truth is always nastier though.

/ Elias Hedlund

Multiplex terminology

Hi rec.
I was chatting to Tiff a couple of weeks back and he mentioned a duplex (I forget what he called it) and wondered what terminology everyone uses or has heard being used to describe the first 2 of the following 5 duplex throws. I've labeled them using the terminology I use or have heard of from others but I want to know what others use.

(1) Martin Duplex Taken from the trick with the same name. Throw a ball with a ball held in the hand. Siteswap [?2]

(2) Slice Duplex Throw both balls but one ball goes straight to the other hand as a pass while the other ball is caught on a later beat. Usually thrown so the catching hand is directly above the throwing hand and claws the 1. Siteswap [?1]

(3) Split Duplex Throw both balls and catch them in separate hands. Common siteswaps [43], [54], [65] etc.

(4) Stack Duplex Throw both balls to the same or other hand treating both balls as if they were one. Common siteswaps [33], [44], [55]

(5) Cut Duplex Throw both balls to the same or other hand like a stacked duplex but in a staggered fashion so the bottom ball of the duplex is caught and re-thrown before the top ball is caught. Commonly used in Shower Explosions with the siteswaps [53], [64], [75] etc.

Thanks in advance to everyone who replies.

Danny

High patterns

I've been practicing 744 recently and I think I'm in love with high throws...

Any suggestions for some nice 5 ball siteswaps or tricks that involve high throws? It doesn't matter how hard they are (as long as they are possible), I'll start easy and work up to the harder ones or something like that, so long as they are prettyful.

Thus far I've only got 744, 94444, 5 ball box and d151.

-Thanks guys and gals :)

What is the value of juggling?

What is the value of artistic juggling or of sport juggling?

What are the practical benefits for individuals or society by having us jugglers around?

To Workshop Teachers: Re: Siteswap Workshop Handouts

If you don't mind, could you send me the files of the Siteswap Workshop Handouts you have used to teach workshops? That is, of course, you used one. I'm really curious to see what people have used in terms of handouts.